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On this episode I’m speaking to one in every of our PGSDers, Rachel, all about utilizing Energy Planning to get into inventive stream.
Rachel is an artist that enjoys capturing folks and characters in her illustrations and likes to share her inventive journey with others. She joined PGSD as a result of she had spent years dreaming of pursuing artwork full time however was too afraid to place her work in entrance of potential clients and begin promoting.
With the assistance of PGSD and Energy Planning, Rachel lastly opened her on-line artwork retailer and made her first gross sales – all whereas working fewer hours than she had earlier than. I’m excited so that you can hear how Rachel used Energy Planning to develop her enterprise and develop into the artist she needed to be (with out feeling confused).
Discover the total episode transcript and present notes at samlaurabrown.com/episode460.
In This Episode You’ll Be taught:
- by no means really feel pressured or confused when Energy Planning
- Rachel’s sincere expertise when she first began Energy Planning
- The sensible issues that Rachel does together with her Energy Planning to maintain it versatile
- What Rachel does when she feels impressed to create throughout her clear relaxation
- cease resenting the time your full-time job is taking from your online business
- precisely estimate how lengthy a inventive process will take you
- When Rachel checks in on her calendar and why it’s by no means irritating if she’s behind
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Introduction
Hello and welcome to a different episode of The Perfectionism Venture, a podcast stuffed with perfectionism recommendation for entrepreneurs. My identify is Sam Laura Brown, I assist entrepreneurs launch their perfectionism handbrake to allow them to get out of their very own method and construct a satisfying and worthwhile enterprise. I’m the founding father of the Perfectionist Getting Shit Executed group teaching program, which is in any other case referred to as PGSD. And for much more perfectionism recommendation that can assist you with your online business. You possibly can comply with me on Instagram @perfectionismproject
Sam Laura Brown (customized intro)
In immediately’s episode, I’m sharing an interview that I recorded in 2022 with PGSDer, Rachel Brown, it was such a superb interview that I needed to ensure it didn’t get buried within the podcast archives. This episode is all about energy planning and how one can use it to get into inventive stream. I share extra within the intro the unique intro that I recorded to this episode. So I gained’t say an excessive amount of extra besides in case you are a inventive, no matter whether or not you contemplate your self one or if you must do inventive issues. With regards to your online business, this episode is gonna be so useful, we get into so many sensible issues which are going that can assist you together with your energy planning. And in addition earlier than we get into that interview, I simply need to ensure you know concerning the energy planning workshop that I’m instructing as a bonus inside perfectionist getting shit finished.
So for those who’re listening to this episode when it has been launched, then you might have the chance to hitch me for this workshop reside. Should you aren’t listening this when it was launched, then you may get the replay recording of it. However I need to invite you to hitch me at twenty first of April 7pm New York time, I’m instructing a bonus workshop referred to as your first energy hour the place I can be guiding you thru planning out your week correctly as a perfectionist. And through that first step of energy planning which is the ability hour. So I’ll make it easier to take your overwhelming to do listing. Regardless of how a lot your previous self has been procrastinating, I’ll make it easier to take that to do listing, prioritize it and put it in your calendar in a method you may truly comply with by on you’re gonna have your clear relaxation, you’re gonna have your needle movers recognized.
So that you’re actually specializing in what’s important and may let go of all the remaining, you might be simply going to have the ability to truly additionally calm your perfectionist mind. As a result of after we are utilizing productiveness instruments that don’t work for perfectionist, love to do lists or time blocking or paper planners or like submit it notes and all of these standard strategies. Then we get in our personal methods I actually need to train you how one can plan correctly as a perfectionist. And for this particular bonus workshop I can be doing all your first energy hour with you. You possibly can are available come as you might be you don’t do any pre work earlier than becoming a member of this workshop. However it’s going to be the right time Sunday night to be planning your week correctly and you may plan out this coming week. Ask me any questions that come up alongside the best way. After which go into the week feeling assured and calm that you could get every thing finished after which relaxation with out guilt. So I need to invite you in samlaurabrown.com/pgsd is the place to search out out extra about this system and enroll immediately. And yeah, I hope you get pleasure from this interview with Rachel.
Sam Laura Brown (second intro to visitor)
On this episode, I’m interviewing PGSDer, Rachel Brown, who’s an artist all about how one can use energy planning to get into inventive stream, and to do your greatest inventive work. We cowl so many sensible issues on this episode that Rachel does together with her energy planning, various things like buffer time, how she constructions her day, what she does when she’s taking clear relaxation, and she or he feels impressed to create one thing, how she balances, constructing her enterprise together with her full time job and the way energy planning comes into that as properly. There are such a lot of issues that we cowl, together with as properly, how one can not really feel pressured, and restricted and confused when working from a calendar, how one can actually use your calendar as a device for kindness, how one can make little tweaks to your calendar.
And in case you are somebody who tends to overlook to examine in in your calendar, what to do about that we actually cowl so many issues which are going that can assist you plan higher and get out of your personal method present up absolutely for your online business and be doing these issues that basically matter constantly sustainably productively and courageously as properly. So we’ll simply get straight into the interview. However I do need to point out that on this episode, we’re speaking about energy planning, which is a technique to plan correctly as a perfectionist. If you’re not but acquainted with energy planning. Should you’ve by no means heard me discuss what that entails how to try this. Then I need to first level you to Episode 342 referred to as how one can plan correctly as a perfectionist utilizing energy planning. And in that episode, I cowl the three steps of energy planning and how one can do them so that you simply’re in a position to get began with energy planning.
Energy planning is one thing that you’ll study in depth and actually apply inside perfectionists getting shit finished. However you’ll be able to get began with it primarily based on what I share that episode. Or for those who desire to observe the video of be chatting about it, you go to samlaurabrown.com/planningseries that can be linked up for you within the present notes. And you may join it there. However both method, it’s going to be actually useful to be acquainted with energy planning and among the key ideas such because the three steps, your Energy Hour, little tweaks and weekly evaluate, as a result of we actually share lots of sensible recommendation by way of implementation, particularly in case you have a inventive enterprise. And I actually imagine that every one of us have inventive companies, as a result of we must be inventive in our considering and the best way we resolve issues and every thing like that.
However significantly for those who ask somebody like Rachel, who’s creating artwork to promote, perhaps you’re a author, otherwise you’re doing something like that, and you discover it actually difficult to estimate how lengthy a process takes we discuss that as properly. And the way Rachel figured that out for herself as an artist. And as somebody who actually felt like there wasn’t a specific period of time it at all times took her so we actually cowl quite a bit. And yeah, that episode as properly, Episode 342 can be linked up for you within the present notes. So for those who’ve already listened to that you simply’re already acquainted with energy planning, then I invite you to dive into this episode. I’m so grateful for Rachel for sharing every thing that she did. I do know that is going to be extremely useful. So I hope you get pleasure from this interview with PGSDer, Rachel Brown.
Sam Laura Brown (begin of the interview)
Rachel, thanks a lot for approaching the podcast, to speak about your expertise, significantly with energy planning and creativity and stepping into inventive stream. Would you thoughts sharing a bit about your online business, what you do and likewise, what perfectionism regarded like for you if you had been constructing your online business?
Rachel Brown
Yeah, completely. Thanks for having me. This is sort of a dream of mine. However I’m Rachel Brown, I’m an artist, I primarily do digital illustrations of actually simply issues that make me blissful. And I wish to share a bit facets of my inventive journey as properly on Instagram. And perfectionism in my enterprise seems to be like probably not having a enterprise at it actually seems to be like me, dreaming of turning this into one thing that I might make cash from and simply being method too terrified to actually get began on something. And so I’d simply dream and dream and dream. And I’d make all of those plans. And I’d by no means execute on any of them. And I finally simply bought so sick of it that I made a decision to hitch PGSD. And right here I’m.
Sam Laura Brown
So if you had been dreaming and making the plans, was that analysis and what different folks had been doing or listening to podcasts or issues like what did that appear to be? For you? And did it at instances really feel such as you had been making progress, when you may see in hindsight that you simply had been truly simply procrastinating on beginning?
Rachel Brown
Yeah, it actually seems to be like I’m what different artists had been doing on Instagram and seeing them construct their following and promote their art work and placing in plans to imitate what they had been doing. However by no means truly shifting ahead with these issues. Or perhaps I’d put one thing into movement for a few weeks. After which I wouldn’t see the outcomes instantly. And so I simply abandon every thing. And I used to be at all times making progress with my artwork, as a result of that was just like the one factor that I might simply get myself to do. However the precise like placing myself on the market and being like, that is one thing I’ve to promote. That simply by no means occurred. I by no means even made it to that step.
Sam Laura Brown
Yeah. And I needed to say about that or ask you additional about it. As a result of lots of instances after we are on this dreaming and fascinated about it, that we’ll attempt to do issues or whether or not it’s with the enterprise as an entire or with a sure challenge that we need to begin that we’re actually simply sort of on this feeling of like we’re doing it however then on the identical time we’re not however then it will get very irritating, as a result of we’ll attempt to do issues for a number of weeks, and it gained’t work instantly. After which we get very disheartened. After which we return into analysis mode. So thanks a lot for sharing a bit extra about what that regarded like for you.
And I need to discuss and we talked earlier than recording about creativity and energy planning, as a result of with energy planning, we’re working from a calendar and perfectionist significantly affiliate working from a calendar with restriction and strain and stress and don’t are inclined to affiliate working from a calendar in the best way that we do with energy planning with having the ability to be in inventive stream, and likewise to have the ability to within the enterprise being inventive stream.
So it’s not only for artists or writers or anybody who’s creatively doing factor. I feel we’re all creators in so many ways in which within the enterprise, there are such a lot of inventive duties that we do. And if we’re seeing energy planning and dealing from a calendar is one thing against that. It may be actually difficult to undertake a device that’s truly in the end going to assist us be extra inventive and have extra stream. So would you thoughts talking a bit to that, but in addition like what did your planning regarded like for you earlier than you began energy planning had been you working from to do lists like inform me extra about that?
Rachel Brown
For I used to be largely working from A to Z You listing. And yeah, I’d sort of simply sit down and like write down all my duties, I’d sit down and I’d write down all my duties. And simply, I’d often decide off the issues that had been the simplest for me to do. And that took, the much less the least quantity of braveness. After which you recognize, every thing else simply get sort of rolled over, time and again and over. And I experimented a bit bit with time blocking beforehand. And it was identical to an enormous catastrophe, as a result of I’d simply put in method an excessive amount of of my calendar, I wouldn’t truly be capable to do any of it, it wasn’t practical, there have been no breaks or something. And the duties on my calendar weren’t particular.
And so I by no means bought any of that finished both. And I blamed the, the system, when actually, it was the best way that I used to be implementing it, that wasn’t useful. And so once I lastly realized energy planning, and like, with the total course of that we have now, the place, you recognize, you write down all of the duties, after which it’s important to truly determine the needle movers, after which significantly with planning and the clear relaxation first, it actually simply pressured me to see that, like, what I used to be doing earlier than was utterly unrealistic. And I wanted to actually pick the issues that had been an important and make area for me to love, stand up and take breaks and eat, you recognize, issues like that. And that basically opened up like much more freedom in my schedule, once I was sort of, like pressured to work inside like a extra practical plan.
Sam Laura Brown
What would you say is the distinction between or a number of of the variations between time blocking and energy planning, as a result of I feel that when folks hear that with energy crops working from a digital calendar, and in the event that they’ve tried time blocking earlier than, and having large chunks for say, like, in your case, it may be create art work, or it may be an Instagram submit, and it’s sort of framed in that like, you recognize, work on this specific challenge and chip away at it. And after we’re time blocking as properly, lots of the instances, we’re simply attempting to place every thing on our to do listing into our calendar and utterly ignoring the truth that we’re a human being who must eat and sleep and do all these different issues as properly. So, out of your expertise, what would you say is the distinction between time blocking and that have you had after which doing Energy planning?
Rachel Brown
Yeah, I feel the largest distinction was the specificity of the duties. So I used to be placing issues in my calendar, like, draw for 3 hours. And with energy planning, I put in issues the place they’re like consequence primarily based, so I’ll be like, you recognize, end or like sketch completed, or some illustration I’m engaged on. After which I feel the opposite large distinction was the truth that I play in in my clear relaxation now first. And I’ve to love, strategically plan in my needle movers round that. As a result of earlier than, it could simply be like all work, like I wouldn’t plan in time to do anything. And so then, in fact, once I’ve simply been like working all day, I get to some extent the place I’m like, I can’t do that anymore. After which, you recognize, I can’t end the plan for at some point. And so I’d throw out the plan for the remainder of the week. And I’d began once more, however subsequent week. So I feel these are the 2 large variations is the specificity after which planning in the remaining first. And simply being extra practical about what I actually have time for in terms of my enterprise assessments.
Sam Laura Brown
Yeah, and it may be fairly confronting generally after we’ve gone from both this countless to do listing, or we’re coming from time blocking, and that being actually unrealistic that then we truly see after we’re palpating after we add within the clear relaxation earlier than the needle movers, that we don’t even have an infinite period of time to work on the enterprise, regardless that we all know that we’re continuously on this type of like, I don’t have sufficient time, we nonetheless really feel like, properly, I can sort of like stroll all day and chip away at issues. So we don’t really feel that sort of I don’t actually need to say strain, however we don’t have that consciousness round time that we do after we do start energy planning and seeing, Oh, I solely have x variety of hours. And so it truly is essential that I give attention to the needle movers. What was that have like so that you can truly go from not having an actual have a look at time to perhaps being confronted with the truth of how a lot time it’s important to work on your online business?
Rachel Brown
Yeah. Confronted is such it’s an ideal phrase for it. Okay, I bear in mind the primary time that I energy planning, I began energy planning I, yeah, I wrote out all of my to do’s and I put in all of my clear relaxation. After which I simply cried for like half-hour, I used to be like, There’s actually no method that I might get all these items finished. However as soon as I managed to select myself again up once more, from that, I, I used to be in a position to see that lots of the issues that I had been placing down on my to do listing had been simply not essential. And that there actually had been only a few key issues that I wanted to give attention to every week. And it wasn’t that large of a deal if I couldn’t get every thing finished that week. And I might simply transfer it over to the following week. And I feel it simply Yeah, it actually helped quite a bit with forcing myself to prioritize these issues that basically mattered. And in addition getting good about the best way that I used to be approaching issues. So I wasn’t like taking, you recognize, the lengthy technique to get issues finished. And I used to be actually like asking myself, How can I make this process simpler for myself? Or can I remove components of this process?
Sam Laura Brown
I’m so glad that you simply shared that you simply cried. And never as a result of I’m glad that you simply cried. However as a result of it may be actually confronting. And it may be this sort of actuality slap of like, Oh, I didn’t, I’m seeing one thing I didn’t need to see. It’s like if somebody is aware of they’ve lots of debt, after which they really examine their financial institution accounts, or they’re not proud of their weight, and so they step on the size. And that’s one thing they’ve been avoiding that it may be a bit bit alarming at first. And we are able to sort of go into this all or nothing mindset about it in a method as properly that we expect that we’re not in a position to change it, and we’re not in a position to make any progress. And that may have us then deciding what I’m simply gonna return to this to do listing the place I wasn’t pressured to really have a look at how a lot time I’ve and to prioritize it and to consider my enterprise and myself otherwise.
So it’s actually useful. Like, I do know, together with your journey with energy planning that you simply had been in a position to decide your self up, you probably did that and also you’ve continued with it and also you’ve had a lot success with and I can see as your coach, how a lot progress you might have actually created for your self with that being one of many predominant instruments. And I simply am glad that you simply shared that. It wasn’t such as you simply sat down, you probably did energy planning for the very first time and just like the heavens opened. And that was it, that we actually have to strategy it with a progress mindset and know that at first by going to be a newbie, and it’s designed to carry up issues that we have now been avoiding and enhance our self consciousness in order that we are able to make adjustments that must be made. And that’s going to be uncomfortable and confronting at instances. And that’s okay. And it’s simply figuring out that and normalizing that.
In order that it’s like for those who elevate weights the primary time and you may’t elevate very heavy weights, and also you’re actually sore if you recognize that everybody has that have, or lots of people have that have, the place then extra simply in a position to decide up the weights once more and go okay, properly, that was regular, I’m simply gonna maintain going, I do know I’m gonna get stronger. And it’s the identical with energy planning that we’re in a position to go from at first, simply doing you recognize the steps in one of the simplest ways that we are able to, however simply sort of having a go at it and feeling like perhaps we’re not doing the very best job however simply being a newbie and doing it to then because the week’s go on, to actually beginning to perceive like, The place does clear relaxation slot in? And what are my needle movers and various things like that? What would you say for you was among the duties that weren’t needle movers, that you simply thought had been my needle movers. We talked about this in PDSD quite a bit. The needle movers are the issues that transfer the enterprise ahead.
And we do that within the context of our progress objective and having a vacation spot in thoughts. It’s so essential we have now that in any other case, it’s actually onerous to inform what the priorities are. However we need to be doing the duties that really matter as a result of perfectionist we love procrastinate working, busy work, all of that sort of factor, and simply maintaining ourselves busy with the extra snug duties. So would you simply thoughts sharing for those who can bear in mind a number of examples of duties that felt actually essential to you? And that made it confronting if you couldn’t match all of them into your calendar to love, what had been these instances that you simply had been in a position to then say truly, it’s okay if I don’t do these, and maybe I’ll even be higher off if I don’t get these finished. Have been there any that come to thoughts?
Rachel Brown
Yeah. I feel one of many large ones was, like I used to get like actually wrapped up in lots of planning associated issues. So like I’d plan and replan my content material calendar on a regular basis. Numerous the issues that I wasted time on had been like Instagram associated. Yeah, I’d spend a lot time attempting to love create this excellent content material calendar and content material technique, when actually I spotted I wanted to only be like making the content material and sort of enable the calendar and the technique to develop as I used to be taking that motion. After which one other factor that I used to be doing was like prioritizing, placing out Instagram posts, like on a daily cadence over sitting down truly creating a product that I needed to promote.
Like, I used to be simply placing every thing else above promoting, like construct an viewers, like all of that stuff I’d put above promoting. And like with the expansion objective, particularly like having that have a look at me within the face, I used to be like, properly, if I’m gonna hit this progress objective, I would like to really promote one thing, you recognize. So it turned actually clear to me that the issues I had been spending my time on, they had been essential. And there have been issues I wanted to get again to sooner or later, however they only weren’t probably the most urgent duties that must be specializing in at the moment.
Sam Laura Brown
That’s so highly effective, you shared that one thing that wasn’t wanted me about was posting constantly on Instagram, as a result of it’s a kind of issues that we expect properly, in fact, that needs to be a needle mover and we find yourself and I’ve positively been responsible of this of prioritizing, assembly that objective, earlier than prioritize the assembly the objective, like the larger objective that we have now, and getting there in the best way that really makes probably the most sense to us, as an alternative of identical to following these guidelines that we’ve had consultants speaking about or seeing what everybody else is doing.
And that for this reason we do have a income objective, slightly than a objective round followers or engagement or issues like that, regardless that that may be uncomfortable. That it truly since we’re in enterprise, it actually forces us to have a look at okay, what am I truly promoting and since perfectionist like we are typically folks pleasers and we would like everybody to love us and all of that. And lots of us have beliefs about promoting that contradict being like we expect individuals are gonna assume I’m salesy, and I’m a sellout and all these various things. And so we’re like, properly, I’ll simply give attention to constructing my viewers. After which as soon as I get a sufficiently big viewers, I’ll be capable to promote with out feeling salesy.
And so I’ll simply give attention to that. However that’s actually the good distance round. And infrequently, it doesn’t even work, as a result of we’re specializing in the unsuitable factor. And we’re additionally approaching the objective in a method that permits our perfectionism to only maintain taking part in into issues. So thanks for sharing that, that was one thing for you that felt actually essential and was very justified. And it doesn’t imply that you simply’re then having to be all or nothing like cool. I’m by no means gonna submit on Instagram once more. However simply figuring out what’s truly essential for you, at this stage of your online business, and figuring out that that’s going to vary as your online business grows as you develop, or the completely different seasons of enterprise or that sort of factor. Has it been like what has your expertise been like, with navigating that?
As a result of in terms of technique, and I do know we’ve had conversations within the PGSD discussion board about this, in your persistent slog, that’s that we may be on this mindset of like assembly the right technique. And I simply want to love pause promoting for some time to determine what that’s. And yeah, might you simply share a bit extra of your expertise with like, how energy planning new progress objective has helped you to navigate and work out I’m positive you’re nonetheless within the strategy of that. So am I. However what does that appear to be for you? What’s been useful for you, as you might have been ? Okay, so I’ve artwork that I’m promoting, and the way do I promote that and get that within the palms of the individuals who needed attain my objective in a method that’s aligned for me? Yeah, inform me extra.
Rachel Brown
Yeah. I feel I imply, like I used to be saying earlier than, having the expansion objective is so essential, as a result of with out it, I’d simply have this like bizarre obscure feeling that I’m chasing slightly like slightly than a selected end result. And so I’ve been exhibiting up actually constantly with for my weekly opinions and my quarterly opinions. And that’s been actually useful in identical to serving to me refocus my mind if it begins eager to path off within the within the path of life, however I have to construct an viewers first, which does occur often. And so it’s useful to have that evaluate and the objective to anchor myself to when that occurs. So yeah, I simply, I like to make use of my weekly evaluate to identical to actually dig into among the ideas that come up all through the week which may get me off observe a bit and I’ll even like change up the questions in my evaluate.
Based mostly on among the issues that I seen developing quite a bit that I need to focus extra on. So like once I was actually specializing in self belief, I had a query that was like, What had been thrice that I confirmed self belief this week. And that basically helped with, like, specializing in these ideas and like serving to me to actually give attention to myself belief shifting ahead as properly. Yeah, I simply I feel the reflection is tremendous essential. Having that particular end result has been actually essential. And it’s helped me focus extra on the precise product within the promoting. And utilizing that to drive the content material, proper. Like, it’s not like, the content material is the principle factor that I’m right here to do, like, I need to promote my art work. And that’s like, the Instagram content material helps that.
Sam Laura Brown
Yeah. And it’s such an enormous distinction to that, we are able to actually get an once more, talking from expertise right here, we are able to actually get caught in considering our job is creating the content material. And if we do that completely sufficient, then it’ll simply occur to promote what we need to promote, as an alternative of really simply doing the direct work on the place we need to promote, and upgrading our self picture round promoting and being somebody who sells and markets. And yeah, it truly is simply it’s a lot extra direct. And that may make it actually uncomfortable. As a result of it’s snug to only study concerning the algorithm and to do the content material plan, and to be spending time on graphics and watching tutorials on how one can create a reel or for some folks may be Instagram, or there’s another platform, they discover themselves actually eager to excellent.
And so this actually helps us the Development Objective energy plant and clear brass as properly, as a result of that takes time away in a method from the enterprise in order that we actually should be targeted on what truly issues and clarifying that for ourselves, that had been then in a position to truly simply be actually targeted on the objective at hand as an alternative of all these difficult methods. Our perfectionism needs us to give attention to it in these actually oblique methods. So in terms of creativity, and having the ability to work from a calendar and Energy Plan, in a method that doesn’t really feel pressured, or restricted, or irritating, and principally, for us to not be a bit to ourselves with our calendar, however to really have it as a device for kindness, and that we are able to have it as one thing that helps us together with creativity, and helps our objectives, and holds us accountable.
And doesn’t allow us to off the hook however not on this irritating method. However on this actually lovely method. We’re constructing self belief and our connection and relationship with ourselves. What has your expertise been like with that, particularly by way of like flexibility and having the ability to, you recognize, create when it feels greatest to you or not feeling like it’s important to sit down and create one thing now as a result of it’s the time that it says in your calendar?
Rachel Brown
Yeah, so, I imply, this was one of many issues that I like about energy planning is prefer it, you don’t have to stay to the plan precisely when you’ve laid all of it out. However what it actually helps with is it exhibits you what you actually do have time for, which truly permits you to be extra versatile. So there have been instances the place I’ve deliberate out like, I’m going to sketch out some illustration right now. And I’ve sat all the way down to do it. And I’m like, oh, like, I actually don’t really feel like that is the precise time to do it. And never from that place of like, I’m attempting to keep away from it. However prefer it actually doesn’t really feel like the precise time.
And I can simply simply swap it in my calendar. It’s one thing else. Whereas earlier than, I used to be like, Nicely, I assume I’ll simply push this to another undefined time. And I had no concept if I truly had the flexibility to get it finished then or, you recognize, like when it was going to occur. And now I can truly say like, No, I’m going to maneuver this to this time and transfer another duties now into this time. So I like I do assume energy planning prefer it makes at first you’re like, oh, however isn’t this going to be tremendous inflexible, as a result of I’ve have all these time blocks in my calendar, however it actually helps with my inventive stream as a result of I’m in a position to sort of transfer issues round fluidly and know that it’s nonetheless gonna get finished. In order that’s actually how I strategy that.
Sam Laura Brown
No, that solutions that. I feel that basically about having or not it’s one thing that like we plan out our week, am I dedicated to these plans. And in addition, because the week goes, was nonetheless checking in with ourselves and the place we’re at and what’s happening. It’s not like as a result of that is the factor with planning if we expect we have now to strictly comply with the plan and we are able to’t make any adjustments in any way. Ah, that’s going to make us overthink the plan utterly. And it takes hours to do it, or we’re not going to plan in any respect. As a result of we expect, properly, there simply isn’t sufficient certainty in my week, I don’t know what’s going to occur, I don’t understand how I’m going to be feeling. And all of us have various things happening in our lives and likewise motivation and power ranges that fluctuates all through the week.
And so it’s figuring out that I’m going to make use of earlier weeks to know myself extra like what time of day I work greatest, how lengthy I can work for once I are inclined to do my greatest work, as a result of we’re updating our PowerPoint as we go so we are able to see what truly occurred. After which we plan the week. After which because the week goes on, we’re not simply ignoring ourselves, as an alternative, we’re utilizing our energy planning as a device to be extra related to ourselves. In order that we are able to simply make these little tweaks as we go. And as an alternative of it being like an extended to do lists, and like, I don’t really feel like doing that. So I’m simply going to push it off. After which we simply have it behind our thoughts this factor that we advised ourselves would do, however we haven’t finished and we’ve been eager to do it for months, however we haven’t bought ourselves to do it.
That it as an alternative turns into I’m not going to do it immediately, I’m deciding that it’s not occurring to me, I’m deciding I’m not going to do it immediately, or I’m not going to do it this morning. And that is once I’m going to do it. And so it doesn’t develop into this overwhelming factor of all. Now, I don’t know when it’s going to get finished. And I can’t belief myself to get it finished in any respect. Is there something you do significantly together with your calendar, like if we might discuss some specifics, you utilize buffer time, which is simply blocks of time, the place you haven’t allotted something particularly, that you could transfer issues into that or you may create new duties that come up all through the week? Is there anything that you simply use in your energy planning to actually assist with that flexibility and having the ability to join with the place you’re at and what’s happening and sort of honor what comes up all through the week with out ignoring your objectives and ignoring the place you need to go along with your online business?
Rachel Brown
Yeah, and also you truly jogged my memory of one thing when you’re speaking round. Like how, like estimating how lengthy it truly takes you to get issues finished. I do know that I positively felt this manner. And I do know lots of artists really feel that method the place they’re like, Nicely, my artwork simply takes so long as it’s gonna take, you recognize, they’re like, I can’t truly plan it out, as a result of it simply takes nonetheless lengthy. And I positively felt that method. And once I began energy planning that was a bit difficult for me, prefer it took a while for me to, like determine it out. However I sort of began out identical to logging how lengthy it was taking me to get sure components of my illustrations finished. After which like after a few weeks, I might sort of see like, Okay, this step often takes about an hour, prefer it takes me like an hour to an hour and a half to sketch after which would possibly take me like an hour to do the road work. And now I do know like just about how lengthy it’s gonna take me to do each single piece that I work on. Prefer it often lands across the identical period of time.
And I truly am in a position to like plan out precisely how lengthy it’s going to take. And I’d have by no means been in a position to try this with a to do listing as a result of I used to be by no means monitoring. And I like how like on the finish of each week, I’ve a full log of every thing that I did. In order that helps quite a bit with truly determining how lengthy every factor was going to take me to do. And so far as like buffer time, I do like to go away in like, two ish hours, often per week for me is what I really feel like I would like simply in case like something comes up or one thing takes me a bit longer than I feel it’ll. I don’t have like an entire ton of stuff happening in my life. So I don’t want like a ton of buffer time.
However I like to go away a bit bit simply in case. And I additionally don’t wish to have an excessive amount of further time as a result of I discover that I’ll like spill issues over longer than they actually need to. Which like another excuse why I actually get pleasure from creating, like inside the bounds of energy planning is that I don’t noodle my illustrations for an excellent very long time. Like I might get into that perfectionist mindset with that as properly. And now I’m like, Okay, I have to cease. Like I can’t simply maintain engaged on this eternally. See, I feel like, once more, the weekly opinions trying again at what I did up to now week has actually helped me to plan out how lengthy every thing’s going to take me and maintain me accountable to these instances. And if issues are taking longer than I can actually sit down ask myself like, do I actually need the additional time? Or am I identical to getting in my head about this? And I have to identical to transfer on with the plan.
Sam Laura Brown
How lengthy would you say it took roughly so that you can go from like if you began how planning to having the ability to estimate how lengthy a process or particularly created an art work would take as a result of that is one thing that I feel no matter whether or not somebody is an artist or anything, that it may possibly may be difficult at first to estimate how lengthy a process goes to take. And particularly if we’ve finished issues like time blocking earlier than we may be on this mindset of like, properly, I simply I’ve a enterprise the place I can’t truly estimate how lengthy issues will take. So I can’t plan. And I have to work from a to do listing, however truly estimating how lengthy a process will take.
And having the ability to adapt when the duty takes longer or is shorter, is a ability that may be developed. And that’s one of many abilities that we’re creating after we’re energy planning. So I feel it’s actually essential that when anybody’s going into it, they’re not anticipating that they need to be capable to precisely estimate how lengthy a process will take. On the identical time, it’s by no means an issue, after we underestimate how lengthy a process will take due to buffer time, due to the little tweaks that we make to the calendar that we’re in a position to adapt. And we’re in a position to replace issues as we go. So did it take you some time to have the ability to get that knowledge from doing art work and reflecting on it to see how lengthy it could take or what was that like for you?
Rachel Brown
Yeah, I feel it took me perhaps like 4 to 6 weeks earlier than I felt like I began to, like get into the groove of it a bit bit. Yeah, it was about 4 to 6 weeks of me identical to sort of guessing. After which seeing what occurs, after which, you recognize, making small changes each single week. After which I’d say like after that, yeah, it was a bit extra constant. I used to be in a position to sort of work out like, Okay, that is how a lot time that I would like.
Sam Laura Brown
Yeah. And the way do you go in terms of? How do you go along with checking in in your calendar, as a result of that is one thing as properly that we may be on this mindset of like, properly, okay, it’s all properly and good, if that’s the case, however then I simply overlook to have a look at my calendar. And particularly if I’m like actually wrapped up in a process or a challenge, say whether it is like creating artwork, I simply get so into it that the time simply flies by, and I gave myself an hour. And earlier than I do know it, it’s three hours, after which I’m behind on my plan. So what do you do that can assist you examine in together with your calendar, and to not try this in a method the place it’s feeling such as you’re being watched by somebody you’re having to love, stick with this sure time and time is ticking away. And due to this fact it’s simply not pleasurable in any respect, however being current together with your calendar, so that you simply do have the perception if you may be overthinking and it’s taking longer.
Rachel Brown
Yeah, I often have my calendar up in like a tab on my pc on a regular basis. And so I’ll like examine in with it at first of the day. And I’ll often examine in with it like, I don’t know, periodically all through the day, like earlier than I begin sure duties. If like with artwork, for generally I’ll sit down and sort of draw for an extended time period, I’d set like a timer. I placed on like a present or one thing that I do know will sort of be across the identical period of time. In order that I don’t really feel like I’m being Yeah, like I’m engaged on a take a look at or one thing with a timer. However yeah, identical to for me simply sort of like checking in on it. Originally of the day, perhaps like mid day and finish of day simply to guarantee that I’m sort of on process has been useful for me, I may be a bit extra of like a, an anal particular person or one thing too, as a result of like, extra usually than most individuals do. However I feel it’s useful to identical to set a timer, perhaps for those who get like sort of caught up and overlook to examine the time.
Sam Laura Brown
Yeah, and it’s figuring out that after we say issues like I overlook to look, it’s usually I’m selecting to not look and it may be as a result of we’ve over scheduled ourselves and put a lot on there that we like don’t even need to part that we’re so behind within the plan, which we’re positive we’re as a result of we’ve procrastinated and finished various things. And so we identical to sort of conveniently overlook about it. But when we are able to as an alternative like on this case, the explanation you may and I do very related within the morning, I’ll examine in on my energy planning once I’ve bought scheduled round lunchtime ish. I imply, I’ll have it up on my pc, I’ve two screens, however I’ll have it up and I’ll be sort of keeping track of it. However not tremendous shut. I don’t actually should as a result of I haven’t over scheduled myself as a result of there aren’t so many issues that I’m attempting to jam pack into the day, that it’s not tremendous difficult to do not forget that I’m in a position to simply examine within the morning round lunch.
The tip of the day is often once I do my little tweaks, although I’ll usually do it as I am going as a result of say if one thing I assumed would take me an hour. There’s some purpose it took me an hour and a half or two hours that I don’t lengthen my workday. Possibly we are able to discuss this as properly, what your expertise is like with that, however I don’t lengthen my work day. And so I have to then transfer it into buffer time that I Have later within the week, or if there’s not sufficient buffer time that I would like to have a look at every thing, prioritize what’s most essential deprioritize one thing or simply drop it into the following week. So subsequent week, I’m gonna do my PowerPoint, and I see it. So in terms of that sort of factor and ending your day on time, what does that appear to be for you? Is that one thing that’s been a little bit of a journey? Or do you discover that when it’s the time that you simply mentioned you’d in the end finish that, that you simply try this? Would you thoughts sharing? Yeah, that
Rachel Brown
I feel this comes a bit naturally for me, as a result of properly, not less than through the week, I like have a full time job. And so I schedule my enterprise time within the morning, after which I am going to my job, after which on the night, I don’t let myself do anything. And generally I need to, however I plan that in his by clear relaxation, and I, like abide by that. Even when I’m feeling anxious to work on different issues, I simply inform myself, like, nice, you may carry that pleasure over to the following day. On the weekends, I’ve needed to be a bit more durable on myself with this, as a result of generally I can simply work like an entire, like 10 hours on a Sunday or one thing. However I’ve appreciated, I wish to work in like two hour chunks, which I feel is another excuse why it’s fairly simple for me to stay to my schedule as properly, I’ll do like, sorry, that 10 hour, two hour chunks, they are saying that I work in two hour chunks. Okay.
So I’ll do like two hours of targeted work, after which perhaps take like an hour or two of a break, after which do one other two hour chunk of labor. After which I often attempt to simply let myself be finished on the weekends as properly. So I feel like maintaining to that very same construction day-after-day additionally helps with not permitting myself to identical to, go and go and go and attempt to like, you recognize, capitalize on a superb day. Yeah, maintaining that construction positively helps. And like energy planning helps with that. As a result of I get to love simply I’ll like put within the issues that I wish to maintain the identical each week I’ve these recurring duties, after which I’ll like sort of schedule my enterprise duties round that.
Sam Laura Brown
There was {that a} construction that you simply knew that labored properly for you earlier than energy planning? Or is it one thing that energy planning helped you uncover after which refine?
Rachel Brown
Yeah, that was one thing that energy planning helped me with. Like with my, my job is sort of versatile, as a result of I work remotely. And I simply should be obtainable for sure conferences. And so I can sort of shift my work hours round. And so I simply discovered that within the evenings, I used to be method too drained to work on something, particularly the brave enterprise duties. And so I made a decision to shift my full time job a bit later and do my enterprise stuff within the morning. After which the working in two hour chunks, that was one thing I discovered once I simply sort of seen, like, each week on the weekends, I’d simply plan out method an excessive amount of to do in a single large chunk. And I often wouldn’t get every thing finished, you recognize, and I seen these issues getting carried over week after week. And so I used to be like, hey, perhaps I’m simply going to do that two hours of labor, after which have a break after which do one other two hours after which simply be finished with it. As a result of as soon as it begins getting previous like 3pm or so I can’t actually operate anymore. So I, I like to only finish the day there.
Sam Laura Brown
Yeah, and I need to spotlight that you simply mentioned about like working 10 hours on a Sunday, that after we’re planning like, I by no means train anybody like you must work this many hours. Or I’m like working chunks of you recognize, two hours, no matter, or solely work six hours in a day or something like that. It’s actually about having it as a device to determine that out for ourselves. As a result of everybody has completely different life circumstances, completely different work rhythms, and likewise these life circumstances and work rhythms are going to vary as we undergo completely different seasons of life. So if I’m there telling you, you must work X variety of hours, and it would work for the season you’re in, however it won’t work for the following season. And then you definately don’t have the self belief to adapt your plans. And that’s one thing we’re actually engaged on constructing with energy planning. It’s such an amazing device for that.
However working 10 hours on a Sunday, for instance, isn’t an issue. And it’s actually about was that what we had deliberate? And is that one thing that’s working for us and like, are we getting sufficient clear relaxation, and I do need to chat about clear relaxation, particularly because you’ve talked about it a number of instances, which is guilt free relaxation. However it’s not an issue prefer it’s everybody’s going to have a unique trying whack day. However we are able to work out what truly works for us and for some folks, they are going to know if I’m working 10 hours. That in all probability means I’ve bought my perfectionism handbrake on and I’m overthinking Issues are I’m attributing a sure end result to having my technique look a sure method or doing a certain quantity of duties and that I would like to love, take a step again and truly have a look at this plan and clear up my considering a bit in order that I can create a extra easy plan, and extra perception in my objective and get there.
However it’s actually simply figuring out how we work greatest. And utilizing energy planning as a device to determine it out, there’s no proper or unsuitable quantity of hours to work, and it’s so pretty to listen to that you’ve got been in a position to determine it out for you what your work with him actually seems to be like and how one can simply work with how your mind works, as an alternative of it was like, cool, it’s important to do a 4 hour chunk. After which it’s important to have a 30 minute lunch break right into a 4 hour chunk, say perhaps like within the company world, it’s that sort of factor. It’s like, particularly if we have now our personal companies, I might work one hour, half an hour off work an hour, half an hour off, I might work 10 hours, no break. And that may be wholesome if I had, you recognize, doing that from the precise place, a progress minded place, and I can work 10 hours and never have any break.
After which I can have three days off, like it may be utterly completely different for everybody. However I did need to chat to you a bit extra about together with your full time job. As a result of that’s one thing that I’ve labored full time as properly whereas constructing my enterprise. And I do know that it may possibly actually simply really feel like that job is stealing away treasured time and treasured power. And that it simply I’d simply be a lot extra profitable if I didn’t have this stem job. And we are able to actually spend lots of power resenting that job. And I do know out of your persistence, log that you simply’ve been on a journey with that. And like, you recognize, reimagining your relationship together with your job to higher help you in your online business. Might you share a bit bit extra about what that’s appear to be for you and the way you’re in a position to give attention to constructing your online business and try this work, whereas additionally exhibiting up on your job.
Rachel Brown
Yeah, I it is a journey I’m nonetheless on, I really feel like I nonetheless sort of flip flop between like, and I actually want I didn’t have this rattling job and feeling prefer it’s okay. However I, I actually have tried to. I feel first like, one thing I seen was that I had been being very obscure about what it was concerning the job particularly that was making me so annoyed, you recognize, like I’d simply very vaguely be like, it’s taking power, it’s taking time. And I by no means took the time to take a seat down and be like, what is definitely the issue? Like what am what is definitely inflicting these emotions of frustration, What even are the emotions particularly. And so I truly began bringing energy planning and my weekly evaluate into my job as properly, that’s a apply that I additionally comply with in that area. And that’s helped me to determine like, what the particular issues are, that I’m annoyed by after which to love truly answer on these issues. And so I’ve truly been in a position to get my job extra to a spot the place it’s method much less irritating and takes method much less power away from me than it used to.
However I’m additionally truly grateful that it takes a lot of my time away, as a result of with out that, I wouldn’t have been in a position to see simply how a lot time I used to be losing on issues I didn’t must be targeted on. You realize, like, if I didn’t have the job, I wouldn’t have had that second the place I simply sobbed, attempting to do my job, I had all of those duties that I needed to get finished. So it’s actually like, I feel it’s supported me in my enterprise greater than something, as a result of it’s actually pressured me to get inventive and be resourceful and belief that like I can carry this out even with the you recognize, quote unquote, restricted time that I’ve. And I’m attempting to make use of my job extra now to, like enhance in among the areas I feel can be helpful in my enterprise. So I’ve been attempting to love discover alternatives to love communicate extra and lead others greater than identical to get myself into some extra uncomfortable conditions like in apply like myself belief in these conditions as properly. And that’s been bleeding over into the enterprise. So it’s, yeah, it’s it’s a backwards and forwards relationship, a love hate relationship, however I feel it’s general good for me.
Sam Laura Brown
Yeah, and I feel it’s okay to that. We’re not like we don’t have inform ourselves, we have now to be feeling wonderful about it on a regular basis. And for different folks, it won’t be a full time job. It may be taking care of kids or perhaps a mum or dad or like a well being situation or these various things that we really feel like I simply didn’t have this one factor that was sort of taking all my time away, that I’d give you the option to take action far more and her mind is okay if our mind thinks these ideas and likewise we do have The facility to redirect them to not these like ideas that sound nice, however don’t really feel good, however truly figuring out for ourselves, ideas concerning the enterprise that and the total time job or no matter it’s, that enable us to indicate up absolutely for each and actually recognizing like, for those who do have a job that’s taking time away from the enterprise, that you’re selecting to work that job, and that was one thing for me, once I was in my job that basically helped me was seen my job as an investor within the enterprise as a result of it was supporting my monetary wants personally. So I didn’t have to depend on the enterprise.
And I used to be then in a position to make long term choices for the enterprise and make cash in a method that was actually aligned with how I needed to make it, I by no means felt like I used to be having to make fast cash. I imply, there have been positively instances the place I used to be placing strain on myself with objectives and feeling that sort of factor. However it was by no means from this place of, I’m not going to have meals on the desk. And so in that sense, the job actually did a lot for me as a lot as my mind prefer it simply beloved to default to I don’t have sufficient time, it’s a jobs fault, I don’t have sufficient time, it’s a jobs fault. And simply sort of loop in that or I don’t have sufficient power, it’s my job’s fault. As an alternative of being like I’m selecting to be at this job. Right here’s all of the the reason why. As a result of I might go away if I needed to, however right here’s why I’m selecting this for me. And the identical if somebody is selecting to not be in a job once they may very well be, right here’s why I’m selecting to not be identical factor.
After which doing that work in order that we’re not spending a lot power, resenting the job, and complaining to us, even when are complaining to others. If we spend all day in our heads complaining about it, it simply takes away a lot power and time. And it’s simply the irony of we complain about it taking on a lot time after which we bitch about it to ourselves, and it takes me much more time than it already is. So simply figuring out that it’s potential to have one thing that’s taking on lots of time and a profitable enterprise and to not resent the job or no matter it’s, and to have the ability to be absolutely current.
So talking of that, can we discuss clear relaxation, so resting with out guilt, by way of particularly the creativity and the way that lets you be extra inventive, slightly than for those who’re simply because I can sit at a pc all day as properly. Like I can sit at a desk for an extended time period. However I’m not doing my greatest work when that occurs. So how has clear relaxation been useful for you? What has that regarded like? Has that introduced up any issues to work on? Like for me, it was like, Oh, shit, I don’t even know what I love to do past the enterprise facet. Particularly earlier than I had my daughter, like I used to be like, What do I like the enterprise I need to like maintain working and being productive. And it actually pressured me to discover myself much more and what I get pleasure from doing past being productive. So in terms of clear relaxation, how has that helped you be extra inventive and and what’s come up for you in your journey with clear relaxation?
Rachel Brown
Yeah, I, I used to search out myself in these conditions the place, like I mentioned, I would really like simply to attract and draw and draw for these prolonged intervals of time. After which I simply be utterly depleted of all of that inventive power for days. And I really feel like having that clear relaxation, the place I simply go and do different issues has actually helped me simply keep inventive, and by no means actually really feel like I’m burning out or I’m like experiencing an artwork block or one thing like that. And it’s given me a lot extra time to only spend with different folks, as a result of I used to get into this mode of like, I have to work on the enterprise stuff. And I can’t ever, like spend time with my accomplice, go see pals or something like that. And I used to, like resent different folks and so they’d be like, Hey, you need to do one thing I like I used to be like everybody’s taking on my weekend there second of all of my time. And it’s been good to love truly plan in for that point to spend with different folks as a result of I do need to spend time with them. And in order that’s been useful, identical to having a while to get away see human beings and get my thoughts off of the enterprise stuff. After which I’m additionally actually excited once I come again to to the enterprise as properly as a result of I’m not identical to continuously, you recognize, churning on it on a regular basis.
Sam Laura Brown
Yeah, I can relate to that as properly, particularly once I was working in my full time job and I felt like I actually had this story that I had so little time to work on the enterprise because it was that I simply felt like anything. Even when it was one thing I needed to do like catching up with pals or household or one thing that was pleasurable, even stuff like meal prep that was serving to me I used to be like I must be engaged on the enterprise. And it simply man I at all times felt exhausted after which when it got here time to work on the enterprise, I wasn’t even in a position to be absolutely targeted and I’d procrastinate and scroll, Instagram and that sort of factor. As a result of my, like, I my mind simply hadn’t had an opportunity to recharge. So for you in terms of the clear relaxation and creativity, are there instances if you’re on clear relaxation time in your energy planning that you simply simply actually really feel like you must sit down and create some beam. And it’s like, I’m simply in that like that inspiration proper now and I simply have to do it. Does that come up for you? In that case, what do you do when that occurs? And does it look completely different? on completely different events?
Rachel Brown
Yeah, generally it does occur generally. And I deal with it in another way in several instances, I assume like, yeah, generally I get the urge. And I’m like, Oh, I simply should do proper now. And so I’ll simply let myself do it. As a result of it’s I imply, you recognize, drawing is like my pastime as properly. It’s what I do for enjoyable. So we’ll let myself try this. Generally I’ll like sort of reschedule the clear relaxation at one other time. If I try this. Generally I’ll try to restrict myself like, Okay, I’ll identical to sketch down an concept in order that I not less than like I’ve one thing to work on once I come again to it later. And however aside from that, I it truthfully doesn’t actually are inclined to occur that a lot, I feel as a result of I do know like I’ve time for this at one other time. And so when my clear relaxation time comes, I often do exactly need to like, relax and take a step away and do no matter, I don’t actually plan out my time, like for what I’m going to do particularly, I simply have the free time there. After which no matter I really feel like doing, I’ll accomplish that I’d identical to watch TV or take a nap or play a online game or one thing like simply no matter I’m feeling in that second.
Sam Laura Brown
I do know you’ve been engaged on self belief by being in PJSC. And it actually feels like if you say that, that there’s lots of self belief that you simply’ve constructed there that I don’t have to do it proper this second I can if I need to, and I’ll let myself and that type of drawback. However I don’t have to from this place of like I have to act on the inspiration as a result of I can’t belief myself to do the factor later. It looks like there’s this base stage of belief of I can belief myself to get this finished and to do it on the stage I need to do it. And do I need to do it now perhaps? Or do I need to do it one other time? Quite than I feel yeah, lots of instances it comes from like, I have to, like actually capitalize on this motivation. I used to work like this, I used to be like, I’ve had this concept. And I have to do one thing with it proper now.
As a result of I don’t belief that I can act upon it. As soon as my mind begins considering of the self doubt, perfectionist sort of ideas, I have to act on it, whereas I’m on this emotional excessive sort of state. And in lots of ways in which like that’s how sort of just like the podcast began and PGSD initially and issues like that. So there’s, it’s not prefer it’s dangerous when issues occur like that. However simply it’s a unique method of working when you are able to do issues in inspiration if you wish to, however you’re not doing it from lack of self belief, however as an alternative doing it from this actually grounded place. So I feel I simply need to acknowledge you for that as properly that it’s actually apparent how a lot the work you’ve been doing, even for those who can’t really feel it your self at instances, is paying off and is de facto exhibiting up in the best way that you simply’re approaching issues.
And the opposite factor I needed to say with this as properly for anybody who finds themselves wanting to love being frightened of scheduling and relaxation or utilizing that sort of factor in that calendar, as a result of what if I’m impressed to do one thing and I have to maintain portray my plan that the great thing about doing the little tweaks is that say, for instance, with Rachel, if each night time if you bought dwelling from work, you’re like I’m simply so impressed to create artwork that you may, for those who let your self try this, and it could it could come up in your calendar, since you’re making little tweaks to mirror what you probably did. After which you may see like if you’re doing all your weekly opinions, oh, like, I wish to take a screenshot of my week once I’ve deliberate it and my week on the finish of the week, so I can actually simply see the variations. So you may say, hey, I plan to do all this inventive work earlier than work.
However I ended up doing all my inventive work after work. After which if that pattern continues, it may very well be like properly truly, perhaps I’m simply going to experiment with scheduling in my inventive work after work and like work with how my mind is seeming to need to go and I’m going to do my clear relaxation within the morning no matter that appears like. And so it’s figuring out that like we are able to if we do need to comply with that we are able to additionally discover patterns there such as you did if you had been like I don’t understand how lengthy it takes to create a chunk of artwork and then you definately’re like, truly I guess if I simply regarded I might I in all probability do it in a reasonably related method every time. And if you did look you may see truly at tends to take this arc and perhaps there are a number of exceptions however typically from begin to end it seems to be like this. That we that then develop into like not frightened of placing clear relaxation in our calendar and never frightened of deviating from it. However simply having the ability planning there and the plan laid out in order that we do have these examine in factors to see like, that is my speculation as to what I feel will get me to my objective in a method that basically works for me.
And like fascinated about if this was simple as in if I wasn’t overthinking every thing and overworking them, what would this appear to be? After which we are able to use that weekly evaluate, as you’ve talked about, to examine in on like, Okay, did my speculation like, the place is it working? The place isn’t it working? What changes can I make? And so if there may be this specific time of day that you simply discover, you’re at all times feeling impressed, or no matter, that you are able to do that and truly work that in, or it may be simply including lots of buffer time into your calendar in order that it may possibly sort of find yourself wherever it must. And it’s very completely different to doing that, versus simply having like, why don’t I simply stroll from a to do listing then? As a result of we don’t have the clear? Proper? Like, it’s simply it’s very completely different. What would you say to that? If somebody’s like, properly, I simply love working each time I really feel impressed. And so why don’t I simply have a to do listing. And I identical to myself, I sort of need to work and never work once I don’t need to work or create?
Rachel Brown
Yeah, I’d say I imply, such as you had been saying, I feel you actually miss out on that chance to, like, see precisely the way you’re spending your time and mirror on that. And, like, be capable to plan out your weeks with a purpose to obtain the objective that you simply’re truly going after, you recognize, like, I feel, if I wasn’t doing this for enterprise, it could be fantastic for me to only have like a listing of issues that I need to do and simply sort of work on them once I really feel prefer it. But when I need to maintain myself accountable to the objective, like I feel I would like some construction to have the ability to see like, Okay, that is how a lot time that I’ve. And that is what I’m truly going to work on these particular duties, versus simply working from the slog to do lists the place I can sort of like shift issues round primarily based on like how I’m feeling within the second and never having to be confronted with the duties that basically require braveness.
Sam Laura Brown
And I feel the To Do lists as properly, like, not having that clear plan actually breeds resentment in so some ways. As a result of after we don’t resolve when it’s going to be enterprise time, or creating time, and when it’s not going to be regardless that we are able to change that all through the week. It then is like after we’re on the job, ah, like this job is taking time away from my enterprise, after we’re with our pals are like I like my pals. But in addition I must be doing a little work or I must be creating that, with Ben places each hour of the day, each minute of the day on the desk for one thing that must be productive time or creating time. After which we’re utilizing a lot psychological power to be like, Nicely, ought to I do the art work now? Or ought to I do it later? Ought to I do it now? Or ought to I do it later? Ought to I do it as an alternative of identical to, No, I’m deciding I’m not doing it now. And I’m going to do it at this cut-off date.
And I can change that if the temper strikes, so to talk, I can change and I feel sure folks can be extra so on this like eager to be, you recognize, following their temper and their PGSD as you have a look at just like the moon cycles and various things like that. There are different people who find themselves extra structured. And I’d say for myself, particularly with like, having my daughter and issues like that, that I simply have these in my work hours like that is when I’ve somebody to take care of my daughter. And so these are the hours that I’m going to get issues finished. And I could make preparations outdoors of that. However I’m lower than now at this stage of my life, not less than probably not on this like I’ll do it when the temper strikes sort of factor. However you may be in that and be energy planning. And it’s higher in so some ways for perfectionist to be doing that than from working from a to do listing. So thanks a lot for sharing that. There’s so many extra issues I need to chat about. However we’ll wrap this up. However is there anything you needed to say? Or any phrases of encouragement with somebody who’s beginning energy planning something that involves thoughts?
Rachel Brown
Yeah, I’d say simply keep it up. Like give it you recognize, the total three month dedication is so essential. And simply know that it’s presupposed to appear to be a scorching mess for the month or two months or no matter. I do know like in our teaching calls. Everybody new that is available in is like okay, I attempted energy plating as soon as and it was like a whole catastrophe. And, you recognize, we’re all like, yep, aha, that’s precisely what’s presupposed to occur. So simply know that, like, that’s completely part of the method. Should you tried it as soon as and also you’re like, holy crap, like, I can’t match any of this shit in and I don’t know why I’m getting the stuff finished. It’s all part of it. However for those who keep it up, it’ll simply carry a lot readability into your days and your weeks like I imply I simply I’ve bought And a lot stuff finished. And like, in a method that isn’t like, Oh, sure, I’m being so productive, like I’m, you recognize, simply getting the quantity finished that I have to get finished. And I be ok with it. And I’m having extra time to spend doing different issues, and with my family and friends and every thing. So it truly is a robust device for those who keep it up.
Sam Laura Brown
I feel that considered, which is quite common, if like, it’s a whole catastrophe, and I didn’t know what to do, and everybody’s doing it higher than me. It’s only a perfectionist considering like, it’s an all or nothing like I have to both do it completely no matter that’s that obscure factor is that we must be doing, or it’s only a scorching mess. And simply figuring out that regardless that that may be the expertise within the first few weeks of I don’t actually know what I’m doing right here. And like that is perhaps difficult, in some methods, are a whole catastrophe, as you mentioned that that’s simply our perfectionist mindset being in that every one or nothing mode. And that’s exactly why we do the ability planning. And at first, particularly it’s going to carry up that perfectionist considering. And it’s a phenomenal factor that it does that as a result of that’s how we’re then in a position to work on it slightly than after we’re working from a to do listing, no matter it’s simply sort of like working silently within the background holding us again.
However we’re not in a position to truly spot what’s going on. So I feel that these phrases of encouragement are actually essential and figuring out as properly that even when it’s a, it seems like a whole catastrophe, that you’ll nonetheless be making progress. And it’s not identical to, cool, you do the three month dedication, and nothing dangerous’s gonna occur for 3 months, after which all click on into place. Once more, that’s an all or nothing mindset. Like as you mentioned, like the primary week you cried, you picked your self again up, which is already a progress minded factor to do, you saved going. After which, you recognize, 4 to 6 weeks later, you had been in a position to truly estimate how lengthy it took you to do a chunk of artwork. And I’m positive there have been so many different issues like clear relaxation, and all of that coming in.
So it’s not like, it’s simply three months of hell, after which it’s simply gonna click on collectively, there can be so many wins alongside the best way. And that’s a part of why we have now that weekly evaluate, which is a 3rd step Empower planning, in order that we are able to get our mind to see what’s working and what we have now completed. As a result of our brains love to only dismiss all of our accomplishments and issues which are working and simply give attention to like, right here’s not what’s working, and right here’s why it’s a whole catastrophe. So we’re retraining our mind, however know that your mind will in all probability default to the whose typical perfectionist ideas. And that’s completely okay, however thanks a lot, Rachel, would you thoughts sharing the place everybody can discover you your Instagram anyplace else? Yeah, the place can we discover you?
Rachel Brown
I’m at present her work on Instagram. And for those who’re considering following together with a few of my written phrases about my artwork journey, you will discover that at present her work.com.
Sam Laura Brown
Yeah, I used to be gonna say as properly, or for those who’re considering shopping for Rachel’s artwork. Sure. Superior. Superior. Nicely, thanks a lot, Rachel, I recognize you. And yeah, I simply need to acknowledge you for all the expansion that I’ve witnessed. And I’m positive it’s solely only a tip of the iceberg, as a result of I’m not following you round each day and seeing every thing however simply seeing your weekly evaluate updates in your persistence log. And simply seeing like, the best way that you’ll be able to be resourceful and answer, discover and decide your self again up and maintain going and actually tremendous assume at such a stage that you simply weren’t at first. It’s simply unimaginable to see and all credit score to you for that. So thanks a lot for being an instance of the expansion mindset and for being on this interview as properly.
Rachel Brown
Thanks, Sam. And thanks for creating PGSD and supply it to me. I’m so blissful to be right here.
Outro
I hope you loved that interview with Rachel Brown. Only a reminder, I’m instructing a bonus energy planning workshop inside my program perfectionist getting shit finished. It’s referred to as your first Energy Hour. And I’m going to be there with you reside as you intend out the approaching week. So that you go to samlaurabrown.com/PGSD to join this system, and you’re going to get instantaneous entry, both to the hyperlink to hitch me reside, or for those who’re listening to this after 7pm on the twenty first of April, and you’re going to get instantaneous entry to the replay recording. So I may be there with you to plan out your week and help you thru the steps of your Energy Hour. Regardless that the steps are easy. It’s simply so good to have help there. And to only not should do it alone, sort of like a exercise class. We will simply present up and you may belief it. If I get myself there, then I’m going to have the ability to get it full. So samlaurabrown.com/PGSD. I’ll hyperlink it up for you within the present notes. And yeah, I hope you might have a phenomenal day and I’ll discuss to you within the subsequent episode.
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